>> Today is June 11th, 2019.
My name is Adina Langer,
and I am the curator of the Museum of History and
Holocaust Education at Kennesaw State University.
I am here at Sturgis Library with Theresai Manley.
Could you please state your full name?
>> My name is Henry Theresai Man Manley.
>> And when and where were you born?
>> I was born out from Dewy Rose, Georgia.
This is in Elbert County, Northeast Georgia.
The house was where my parents were living,
and it's in the edge of the yard of the old home place,
the Mann home place.
>> And was this in your family for a long time?
The Mann home place?
>> Yes, it was.
>> And what were your parents' names?
>> My Daddy was John Henry Man.
I was named for him.
I was the first child.
And my mother was Ullamay Bond Mann.
>> And what were their occupations?
>> When they first married,
they lived in the Elberton area,
and that's the Granite City of the South.
And Daddy, like most men there,
worked in a Granite shed.
Mother was a housewife.
But she was a really good seamstress
and she took in sewing and
made and repaired and altered clothes for people.
Daddy had to change jobs because he
got what they then called water on the knee,
and he couldn't do the granite shed work anymore.
They moved from Elbert County to McDuffie County,
which is where Thompson is,
and Thompson is 30 miles west of Augusta.
And Daddy became a Watkins man.
That is to say, he owned a truck and
drove all around McDuffie County
selling Watkins products.
>> So did you have siblings?
>> Yes. I had two sisters and two brothers.
>> And did you already have them when
you moved to Thomasville.
>> To Thompson.
>> Thompson.
>> I had one sister then and the others were born later.
>> So what home did you live in in Thompson?
>> Two or three different ones.
When we first moved there,
it was 1940 and 1939,
and the beginning of the war,
and there just weren't many places.
And the first place we lived was
an abandoned service station out from Thompson.
And they rented it until they could find a place,
and then they rented a house
with Mrs Lewis out on Cobham Road,
and we lived there several years.
Then they bought a house in
Thompson and that house on Neil Street in
Thompson is where we
grew up and where they lived until they died.
>> And that was a small town?
>> Small town, yes.
>> What was your neighborhood like?
>> The houses were mostly like
our house was, small house.
Daddy brought an extra lot so he could do a garden.
And the neighborhood was close and friendly.
Across the street was a girl about our age,
and then we became good friends.
And it was really close walking distance
to the elementary school.
>> And did you interact with
white kids and black kids or only white kids?
>> I didn't know any black kids.
I never saw any.
>> So at this point,
the war was going on once you moved there.
Do you remember do you have a sense for
what it was like right at the beginning of the war?
Did you notice Pearl Harbor happen?
>> I noticed before that.
We were still living in Dewy Rose,
and the house we moved
to after the house at the old home place.
I was probably about five years old
and the war in Europe was going on.
Daddy always listens to the war news.
And it was horrible to me.
As a young child I could hardly bear
it and I would beg Daddy to please turn off the radio.
I don't want to hear this,
but he couldn't, he wouldn't.
And then I would run out of the house to
what Jackie and I called my sister,
our playhouse, it wasn't a house.
It was just a space in the yard where we played house,
and I would cry because I couldn't stand it.
And I was four or five years old.
>> And what was it about that news
that upset you so much.
>> I've been trying to think of that.
And I think what it was
was hearing that children were being killed,
that houses were being
burned and that something was happening in
Germany about camps and killing people.
It was horrible to me.
>> And as the war
continued and you were a young at that point,
probably a young student in school,
do you remember doing anything to support the war effort?
>> Well, yes. In fact, by that time,
we were living in Thompson and
I started to school in Thompson.
And we would gather scrap metal.
And take it over to the place that took the scrap metal.
And it was that and I suspect
some other things that we now
call preservation and all of that that we were doing.
>> Do you remember any posters or anything like that
telling you that you should
conserve or have a victory garden or anything like that.
>> I certainly remember the victory garden,
and I think we must have called ours that at some point.
They certainly grew so much that
we started with anyway, canning.
And then when freezers were there, actually,
the first freezer was
a building in town that people rented spaces in.
And they did that and froze things.
And that was a part of our conserving and so forth.
I guess that's the main thing.
I remember also the posters of women working.
And that was new to me, women working.
>> Did you know any women who worked?
>> I'm sure I did, but I don't remember.
>> Do you remember using rationed coupons for anything?
>> I don't specifically remember the coupons,
but I remember yes that things were rationed.
In fact, the really nice house at the end of our street.
Was rumored to be hoarding sugar.
It was a terrible thing.
But yes, I remember rationing the ration soap,
ration sugar, ration tobacco and cigarettes.
Daddy smoked at that time.
And I remember seeing
him use a little machine that you put
the cigarette paper in and put the tobacco in and
the machine would roll it into a cigarette.
But wasn't too long after that that he quit smoking.
Nylons or silk stockings were not hoarded,
but were rationed because they
used that material to make parachutes.
And one of the things that
Anise reminded me of
when we were talking about this is that,
when you couldn't, at that time,
stockings seam in the back,
get your seam really straight.
All of that.
Well, if you didn't have any stockings,
you had to pretend you had
stockings and so you would draw a line
up the back of your leg to
pretend that it was a silk stocking with a line on it.
>> Now, you mentioned that your father
had been in the Granite business
and he drove trucks for
Watkins but you had an old family homestead.
Did you have a sense of how the Great Depression affected
your family or changed anything for you?
>> Not really. We didn't have much money.
Daddy didn't make a huge amount of money.
Either place he worked.
A part of Mother's sewing
was helping with the family economy.
And we just had to be careful about what we
bought and what we ate and what we wore.
>> And did your mother make your clothes?
>> Yes. Mother made everything I ever wore,
even my wedding dress and
all of the bridesmaids' dresses.
[LAUGHTER]
>> What was your mother like?
>> Mother was very strong and bossy.
[LAUGHTER]
She was difficult to live with sometimes.
She was very moral.
And I guess the main thing
is she was just very strong
and did her best to rear us well.
>> Did religion play an important role in your family?
>> Yes. We were members
of the First Baptist Church of Thompson.
We always went to church,
Sunday morning Sunday school church,
training union, church at night.
And Wednesday night prayer meeting too.
And I sang in the choir from the time I could.
>> And do you remember anybody talking about
President Roosevelt or having strong opinions
about the work that he was doing as the president?
>> Yes. He was very popular where I was.
It was very strong and
he was doing some things that would
help lower-income people like us.
>> And you mentioned that you never made a lot of money.
Was there a sense that you
were poor and other people were
not or was it everyone was in the same boat?
>> I think everyone was in the same boat.
There were a few who had more,
but I don't recall that we really felt poor.
>> So you were still young while the war was happening?
>> Yes.
>> Did you have any relatives or
know anyone who served in the military?
>> Yes. I had an uncle who
was actually a prisoner of war.
And one of the articles
that I brought when we brought pictures.
One was a picture of Mama Man,
his mother, my grandmother.
And newspaper article that
mothers used her Bible as a scrapbook,
and that's where I found it.
But this article was about
Mama Man going from Elberton to Augusta
to receive for him
an award for having been a prisoner of war.
That was her youngest son, Uncle Horace.
He did come back.
>> That's good to know. If it wasn't for his niece,
would your father have likely
served or was he older than him?
>> Well, he was somewhat older,
but he also had been.
I'm losing a word.
What is it when?
>> Was he a veteran?
>> Had he served before?
Was he a veteran?
>> Was not a veteran from
the First World War of the Army,
but he served in one of the local things that did that.
>> Like a National Guard.
>> Yes. Thank you.
>> Sure. [LAUGHTER]
>> Yes. My dad was in the National Guard at one point.
>> Did he take any role in organizing any home front?
>> No.
>> Defense?
>> No.
>> So what do you remember about the end of the war?
>> It was a wonderful, exciting time.
But what I remember was what we did before that,
that is, I remember Hiroshima very much.
In fact, I've talked with my brother
in getting ready to talk with you.
My brother is about seven or eight years younger
than I. Johnny said
he remembers hearing about
the mushroom cloud and he was just about two or three.
It was something that was awful but also amazing.
And so I remember that as awful as that was,
at least it helped to end the war.
>> How was it described on the radio?
Did they talk about the shape of the cloud?
>> They talked about the mushroom cloud.
>> And at this point,
you would have been in elementary school.
>> Yes.
>> Were you starting to think about
what additional education you wanted to get,
what your hopes were for the future?
>> I wanted to go to college,
but there weren't many people in our family who did,
and we didn't have much money.
I had a cousin whose mother's first cousin who
came and visited often and he was at Mercer.
And I thought, that's what I want to do.
I want to go to Mercer.
It became possible.
I got some scholarships.
I worked in the dining hall,
and mother and daddy did what they could.
There came a time.
Well, we'll talk about that later,
but thinking about what I wanted to do.
I became a Christian.
I joined the church and was baptized
and was encouraged to do religious work.
And so I thought when I go to college,
I'll major in Christian education.
And I got to college and started
that and changed my mind.
>> And was there a sense that there were
distinctly different opportunities for
women versus for men?
>> Absolutely.
As I was looking through the
pictures getting ready to talk to you,
I thought how different our lives were
from my grandmother's to
my mother to me and to our daughters.
So much has changed
and so much is so much better for women now.
>> So what was life like Mercer?
What did you enjoy about being a student there?
>> I liked knowing I could be there.
I liked being there.
I was a member of the non sorority group called MICA,
and became more and more active in that.
I was active in Baptist Student Union, BSU.
And I loved the learning.
I loved what I was doing and so forth.
This was Mercer in 1952-1956.
Would you believe that to go to physical education,
which we were required to
do we couldn't just wear shorts across campus.
We had to wear a raincoat to cover up.
Things have changed a lot.
But also, while we were there,
Mervyn Griffin was Governor of Georgia.
And Mercer was a big basketball school,
and a Yankee basketball team was going to come down pit,
I think it was, going to come down and play.
And Mervyn Griffin said they can't come down.
They're Black people on on that team.
We hung him in effigy.
>> Was there a sense even then on campus that there was
maybe hope that things might change
in terms of segregation?
>> I think this thing
that happened to us has something to do with that.
Also, when I was president of BSU,
which was my senior year,
the Mercer BSU met with
the Fort Valley Black College BSU
because we wanted to learn
about each other and get together.
We were demonstrated against,
but yes, there were some things beginning.
And pretty soon after we graduated,
they began to accept African American students.
>> Did Mercer accept African American students
even before UGA?
>> I don't know when UGA did.
>> So what were some of the first things
that you learned about civil rights issues.
>> I'm not sure about first things.
I'm very aware of my family's stance in this.
They were very racist.
I remember also being in high school
and some of the things
I said and did forgive my language now.
Some of my erstwhile friends called me a nigger lover.
I had changed.
I had moved away from where my family
was and continued to do that.
>> Do you remember ever trying to have conversations with
them about how your thoughts were changing,
or your attitudes were changing?
>> Not much. It was difficult.
My daddy in particular
was extremely racist and some of his brothers.
Daddy was from a family of 12.
We're very racist until they died.
And there was nothing that you could do
about that no matter what you said or did.
>> Do you ever remember talking about the clan?
I know they were active in the '40s.
>> Oh, it was scary.
It was a terrible thing.
>> Well, pivoting back to your college experience,
can you tell me about meeting
your husband or your future husband?
>> Yes. I was already a junior when he came there
and we vespers every night,
every evening right after supper.
And I met him at Vespers.
And we were friendly.
But I liked a couple of other guys
a lot better at that time.
But that changed.
And there came a time in
my senior year that there was nobody else for me.
>> So at that moment,
were you thinking that you wanted to
do next in your life?
What were your [inaudible]?
>> When I got to be a junior,
I changed my major to Pre Med.
I decided I wanted to be a doctor.
Maybe a missionary doctor, but a doctor.
And therefore, in my junior and senior year,
I was making up with
the science courses that I had not taken earlier,
taking beginning and advanced lab courses at
the same time and
working in the dining hall and being president.
It was a busy time.
But I did okay.
And I got accepted at
Medical College of Georgia wen I graduated.
When you're going to graduate at least back then,
I guess they still do.
You take your GRE graduate record exams,
and I made the highest grade in
biology that had been made at that time at Mercer.
Yes. But anyway, I
got accepted at Medical College of Georgia and I
was in a class of 100 of which eight were women.
It was the largest women class that ever had.
This was 1956-57.
>> What was that experience like for you?
>> It was terrific.
I loved the kind
of learning I was doing dissecting the human body,
the biology and chemistry courses that
were medical and so forth.
But I also, at that time was in love with Clay.
And Clay was going to go to seminary.
And at some point,
there came the time when
I had to make a decision about what I was going to do.
Emotional now still thinking about it.
It was a difficult time.
There were a number of things involved.
One was that I was one of these women and
the biggest women class they had,
and the very idea of dropping out.
There was also wanting to be married to Clay
and knowing that we could not afford for
him to go to seminary and meet to stay in medical school.
Now, one of the things about
my college experience that I haven't
mentioned is that when I was a junior,
at Christmas time mother and daddy said, honey,
I'm really sorry,
but we just can't afford for you to go back to school.
I quickly wrote a letter to my pastor,
who is the campus pastor.
The day that he received the letter
and called over to the President University and said,
look, I've got this worthy person who can't come back.
In the president's office was a man
representing a men Sunday School class
from First Baptist Church Decatur.
Who was trying to find a student to support.
And I became that student.
And so this men Sunday School class
from First Baptist Church Decatur,
paid the rest of my way through school.
I still worked, but they
paid my tuition and room and board.
And my first year of medical school.
And he was somebody I had to
tell I'm dropping out of medical school.
Anyway, that's those two or three years for me.
>> So then you married?
>> And then I married Clay.
I left medical school and Clay
graduated from Mercer at the same time.
He was one year behind me.
Hey, I'm a year older than he is.
But anyway, he was one year behind me in school.
And so he graduated in 57.
I left medical school in 57 and in
July of that year, we got married.
>> Was it a big wedding?
>> Well, yeah.
[LAUGHTER]
My mother made an absolutely
beautiful dress for me and the bridesmaids,
and the church was full of people.
And it was first bat
Church of Thompson where I had grown up.
And it was really pretty special.
>> So tell me about going to New York.
>> There are several things involved in
this that you've had no hints about.
My sister went to University of Georgia and
met at the University of Georgia
the man she wanted to marry.
Heaven forbid.
He was a Yankee and a Catholic.
My mother and daddy didn't like that and had
decided that even if they got married in Thompson,
mother and daddy wouldn't go to the wedding.
They got married in Massachusetts,
which is where he was from.
This was in 1959.
Clay and and I,
I was pregnant with our first child.
We went up to be at her wedding and then went on
to Union in New York City.
So our trip to New York City did some family stuff too.
And then we lived in a student apartment at
Union and Steven was born that fall now.
I was already largely pregnant because he was born in
November and we went up there in August and September.
And you have to go to a doctor in a hospital.
I went to OB clinic
two or three different hospitals
and they wouldn't accept me.
I was too far along
and didn't have any history with them.
So I went to the Dean of Women at Union and I said,
you know if you don't get me in a hospital,
you're going to have to help me have his baby.
[LAUGHTER]
Did I say that Clay?
[LAUGHTER]
She got me in a hospital and that all worked out fine.
And Steven was born
three o'clock in the morning and
the day before Thanksgiving.
That year, we moved to New York.
>> And did you have much of a
support network while you were there?
>> In a very real sense, yes.
We lived in student apartment
and we were in married student apartments.
So there were people there who like
I needed friends and so forth.
Also, I went to I went to church,
which was right next door to Union,
and I felt support from people there.
>> And now, Union was
a slightly different denomination
in Christianity than you were used to?
>> I believe Union was basically non-denominational.
There were people there who were baptist but
other protestant denominations too.
One of the things that happened is that Clay was told,
if you go to Union,
and this is when we're still back
in Georgia deciding what to do.
And he was told by people from
the Southern Baptist Church that if you go to Union,
you'll have a really hard time finding a church
when you get back because they won't accept you.
And that was true. It was difficult.
>> And was that based on North South prejudice,
or liberal conservative prejudice?
>> Yes. [LAUGHTER] And it was not Southern Baptist.
>> So did you take
any theological classes while you were there?
>> Yes, I did.
We were able as spouses of students to sit in on classes.
And some of the ones that I
liked so much, I sat in a lot.
The worst grade I had made in high school,
I was practically a straight A student, except in typing.
I made my only C in typing.
[LAUGHTER]
I got really good at typing at
Union because I had to type Clay's papers.
[LAUGHTER]
And I learned a lot from Clay's type papers too.
>> And did you do any other work
outside the home while you were there?
>> Yes. And in fact,
when we got married and I had
dropped out of medical school,
one of the questions was, what will I do?
I didn't want to be a nurse,
mainly because everybody said,
if you can't go to medical school and be a doctor,
you need to be a nurse, well.
But Clay has a cousin who
was active as a nurse and in the medical field.
And she said, why don't you go to
Grady and become a medical technologist? I did that.
And so before we went to New York,
I had become MT ASCP,
a registered medical technologist.
And so some of the time when we were there at Union,
I worked in hospitals,
and that certainly helped our being there,
and being able to stay.
>> What struck you as being most different between
New York and where you had grown up?
>> There were so many people.
The apartment building we lived in,
it was connected to the school.
I think, Clay's first pastor
after we married was before
seminary and we were at Woodstock,
which was a tiny town then.
The floor we lived on had more people
in it than the town of Woodstock.
[LAUGHTER]
So a part of it was the traffic,
the climate, the number of people, how you shopped.
It was all very different.
>> Did you find yourself homesick ever?
>> Sometimes.
>> So what was it like then to move back to Georgia?
>> On the way back to Georgia,
I remember Clay saying,
he had gotten an offer for a church
at Midwest somewhere,
and he said, no, I'm not going to do that.
And if anybody who wants us to move back to New York,
that'd have to stop me from moving South every morning,
it was time to go back home.
We were not sure.
Stephen was so little.
He was born there, and
we had a snow that was taller than he was.
[LAUGHTER]
And our friend, Harville Hendrix,
had an old Cadillac,
and the window wouldn't close quite,
and inside the car filled up with snow that time.
That was not our usual climate.
Nancy was born in New York too.
So both of our two first children were born in New York.
>> So once you did come back to Georgia,
you had one more child?
>> Yes, Catherine was born.
She was born in Marietta,
at what was then Kennestone Hospital,
the first Kennestone Hospital.
>> And did you settle in
one place once you
were back in Georgia or did you still move around a bit?
>> We moved around some.
Pastors are not usually in one place a whole long time.
Five years at the most,
and we moved around some.
But mostly around the Atlanta area.
>> You're not sure Atlanta kind of area.
And did you observe some of
the changes that were happening in terms
of moving away from segregation,
and people trying to
change things in terms of civil rights?
>> Yes, absolutely.
And further along our granddaughter,
Courtney, well,
she's the daughter of Catherine, our youngest child,
they were at our house and she was
talking about this class that she
had at school, and I said,
Courtney, I grew
up in a town that was totally segregated.
I didn't even know anyone my age who was not white.
She was so surprised.
She said, "Grandmother,
would you come talk to my class about this?"
And I said, "If the teacher wants me to, I will."
And I did. It was an interesting experience for me,
because it made me think more
about that particular thing.
Growing up like I did.
After I said what I had to say to the class,
and this was a mixed class,
asked if they had any questions.
And one of them said,
"Did you have any friends who were who were black?"
And I had to tell them,
"No, I didn't even know anyone my age who is black.
The changes that happened happened more after I grew up.
>> Do you remember Martin Luther King Jr as a figure?
>> Absolutely.
He was a very special man in a very special time.
I remember when he was killed,
and those awful television pictures showing it happening.
And I appreciate him a great deal.
>> So did you ever take
a job after your children got a little bit older,
working as a medical technician or another field?
>> Yes, absolutely.
It was helpful to the budget for me to work,
and I liked working.
And I worked most of the time.
Bless him, Clay,
my jobs were often 7:00-3:00.
[LAUGHTER]
Hospitals did that,
and some doctors offices did.
And bless him, Clay was the one who had to get
the children up and off to school.
I had a traveling job too.
I'm trying to think of the chronology here.
One of the major important laboratories
in the country was Bioscience Laboratories.
Bioscience was in the Los Angeles area.
And you've heard us talk about
Catherine's not feeling self-confident
because of the competition
between her and her older siblings,
and at one point, I was offered a job at
Bioscience Laboratories to be head of client response,
which is the call center.
We talked about it and
decided that I would take that job.
Clay didn't go. If things work out, I'll come later.
And he was working in real estate at the time.
Stephen and Nancy were already in college,
Catherine and I moved to California.
It was her sophomore and junior years in high school,
and I've always felt that it
turned out to be a good thing for her.
She was away from
the siblings and she could make her own way and she did.
And Catherine has become a very special young woman.
She's thoughtful and caring,
but we think that out of all our children.
But I felt like that was good for her.
After two years, it was time
for us to decide what we were going to do.
It was people would say,
are you and Clay separated?
No. We're just apart right now.
And it was not that separation,
it was just a job thing.
So I applied for a job back in Atlanta,
and Clay and Stephen came out and collected our stuff,
and we drove across the country,
moving back to Atlanta.
It was a really good thing to do.
>> When was this?
Clay, when did we move back?
[LAUGHTER]
>> 1982.
[LAUGHTER]
Catherine had one more year of school,
and she she finished school at Decatur High.
>> So thinking about your childhood and your family,
what did you find to be
the greatest changes that happened
between your experiences and your children's experiences?
>> Maybe the best way for me to describe that is
to describe what they now do.
Nancy and Stephen both went to college.
Stephen graduated from Mercer, cum laude.
Nancy graduated from Braemar.
Her high school counselor has suggested Braemar for her,
and got her PhD at MIT in biology.
Nancy is one of these women who is
her own person and is very strong and very bright.
She is now head of a couple of departments in
the biology and research departments
at University of Georgia.
And when she was
doing her postal work at University of Utah,
she met Brian who became her husband.
She didn't take his name.
She's still Nancy Manley.
And they have one son, Eli,
but I think a part of the difference with Nancy
is she did what
she wanted to do and what she needed to do.
She made up her mind,
and she was able to do that.
Stephen did too.
And he married and
they have a really good relationship, long-term.
Their youngest child, their son
just graduated from college.
Stephen was head of
the computer department at CarMax for a number of years,
which is why they moved to Virginia.
They now live in the Richmond area
because that's the home office of CarMax.
When CarMax got new leadership,
they did the same thing somebody did to me at the lab,
and that is when you're middle management,
they want new middle management.
So now Stephen is head of IT
for the state patrol for all of Virginia,
and his office is still in Richmond.
Catherine decided not to finish college,
and that was okay for her,
but Catherine now is head of
the department of acquisition for
the library system of
Gwinnett county and has
worked for that for a very long time.
And she has two children.
And she's our youngest child
and our youngest child is a grandmother now.
>> So you have grandchildren?
>> And we have great grandchildren, yes.
Does that answer your question.
>> Sure. Yeah. So my last big question then is,
what do you think a student of history
should take away from learning about your life?
>> I think there are several things.
When there is something that's important to you,
don't let people change your mind about what's important.
Be sure that you're
confident in what you're doing and continue.
On the other hand,
Clay and I have talked about this recently.
I have a little thing on my refrigerator that says,
don't look back, you're not going there.
However, I looked back and it was a good thing to do.
My choice to drop out of
medical school was not an easy one to make,
but it has turned out really well.
You see, even if Clay and I had
married later and had had children later,
we wouldn't have had these three children.
They would not have been the kind of people they are,
and these are three people to be proud of, and we are.
They are good citizens,
they make good choices,
and they work hard and they're rearing good families.
So we did the right thing in several ways.
So that's a part of it.
Just be careful the choices that you make,
but you can make choices of your own.
That's part of it.
And also, go to school,
learn as much as you can,
graduate from college, do more if that's where you want
to go because that's an important part of your life.
And church is important too,
really important in so many ways.
>> Thank you.
Is there anything I haven't asked you
about any stories you wanted to
tell that you didn't get to tell?
>> I'll probably think of them when I get out there.
>> Maybe as an aside,
I know that you wanted to talk about
your husband's peacock cane.
So it might be nice just to tell that story.
>> Clay, show me your peacock cane.
>> We might be able to bring it into
the line of the film.
Let us know if you can see it. You can see it?
>> The peacock is a symbol of Clay's family,
Clay's mother, Ms. Manley.
You'll notice I still call her Ms. Manley.
I'm not sure why.
She was the best mother-in-law you could have ever had.
Clay and I lived with her for
a little while after we married,
and then we got our first apartment.
And when we did,
we invited her over for the first meal.
And I did everything I could to make a wonderful meal.
And when I got up to clear the table and get dessert,
Clay told me later, he said, oh, mother, I forgot.
You don't like cherries and Teresa made cherry pie.
She said, tonight, I do.
It was her attitude about
so many things to be thoughtful and careful.
Well, for some reason, animals knew that.
There was a cat that showed up at
her door that apparently had been snake bit or something,
it was a sick cat and
left iti sittens for Ms. Manley to take care of.
And she did. And later
the cat got okay and she came back and got her kittens.
Who does that happen to?
Most of the time that I knew her,
she didn't have pets.
One day a peacock appeared in her yard,
landed on the well shed.
She didn't know where it came from.
She eventually found out that
a neighbor across the highway some miles
away had acquired a male and female peacock
and didn't know they flew.
They do. That one lived
the rest of its life at Ms. Manley's house.
We all have peacock feathers
that it shed that we collected.
I still have some.
And when Anthony, our grandson,
the father of the two great grandchildren,
decided he wanted to make a cane for clay,
we all decided peacock was what it should be, and it is.
And that's that story.
>> That's great. Thank you so much.
Well, thanks so much.
Thank you for your time and for
sharing your memories with us, really appreciate it.
>> And thanks for listening.